So You Want To Do Articleship?

660 Responses to So You Want To Do Articleship?

1. AMISH GAURAV | July 1, 2009 at 8:24 pm | Reply

   Sir I want to get register as article in PWC, what is the procedure?

   Reply by Anup: Hi Amish. You should directly contact the PriceWaterhouse offices that are located in some of the metro cities. Also, usually they advertise their vacancy by putting their advert in the ICAI regional/branch office of that city. Usual requirements are either in merit list or clearing the required exam in first attempt.

2. Harish Purohit | July 20, 2009 at 6:18 pm | Reply

   I want do articleship because i want to do C.A. if any one have any vacancies then pls call me on +919892442267 or email me. Thank you

   Reply by Anup: You are adviced to contact the nearest ICAI Branch – often they have information on articleship vacancies. Or contact the Student adviser of your Branch/Region or even the CASA (CA Student Association) official of your place. Please remember you may get information on internet but you don’t get articleship through internet – and no one “calls” for articleship – you have to pursue your own case!

3. Niket Chandak | August 2, 2009 at 9:48 am | Reply

   Sir can u tell me some good ca firm in indore?

   Reply by Anup: Hi Niket! There are no “good” or “bad” firms! A firm can only be good or bad for the individual – its like how you fit in. Instead I would suggest that you try to find a CA who is also a good person! (CA’s differ in personality) and who prefers to follow the rules of ICAI. Such information can be found through the Coaching grapevine or friend-circle who are already into it. Shortlist a few names and then directly meet them. Then you can then judge under whom you would like to take training. At Indore, there are Practicing CA’s who are central council members and also ex-Chairperson of CIRC – they are fine persons.

4. Deepak Kewalia | August 12, 2009 at 8:39 pm | Reply

   sir,
   i want to ask that how can i change my articleship.however my father is a buisness man.

   Reply by Anup: Under the rules as on date, ICAI has indeed made transfer of articles difficult. However, ICAI permits transfer of articles under following circumstances:
   1) Transfer of Parent / Spouse
   2) Transfer of articles on change to Industrial Training
   3) Also it provides for termination of articles with break for three months if the trainee is ill – however it is not clear whether re-registration can be done with another principal

   Apart from above, ICAI has a system of ‘secondment of articles’ whereby you can officially take training under another principal for a max period of one year. Under this no communication has to be made to institute. It is an ‘arrangement’ between your current principal and the other CA. It can be resorted to if your current principal does not have ‘variety’ of training – and that other kind of training can be obtained from the other CA.

   Apart from above, the institute can also permit transfer on a case by case basis if there is compelling reasons for it. However, you will have to forward your case to the regional office through your current principal.

   Instead of just thinking for transfer – give it more thought. Take your principal into confidence – talk to your principal about any difficulty that you might be having. And only then explore other options. In most cases a reasoned conversation with your principal usually solves the problems.

   The links to the amended transfer rules and Clarification issued by ICAI on this issue can be found in the follwoing links:

   Announcement 19-05-2009
   Announcement 01-07-2009

   • Anup Mukherjee | July 31, 2011 at 8:59 am | Reply

     Existing transfer rules during articleship is located at: http://indiapoint.net/ca/2008/10/31/articleship-certain-rules/#toc-8-transfer-from-one-principal-to-another

5. Rishi | August 15, 2009 at 2:40 pm | Reply

   How to get through big 4 audit forms?

   Reply by Anup: Get good marks in exams and meet their HR manager or Partner who looks after Articles recruitment!

6. kiran | August 20, 2009 at 1:40 pm | Reply

   i have completed pe-2 along with MBA batch(2007-09)now m wishing to join articleship and complete CA…so which type of CA firms i should choose? at present i m at rajkot…

   Reply by Anup: It depends what you want to do. Its really your choice.

   At Ahmedabad / Surat / Baroda, there are lots of good firms. Infact any big business center is a very good training place of articleship – as there is lots of work for CAs in such places.

   If you want to go for employment – and that you also have MBA, you can easily get entry in any big firm (there are other big reputed firms also other than Big 4). Later on while searching for employment, the ‘brand’ is a big plus. (In such case, it is just like MBA – if you do it from IIM you have good opportunities , but if you study the same course and same subject for MBA but from some other college, you dont have much opportunities)

   If you want to go for practice (or even want to open your own business), then join some middle level firm where you would get wide range of experience.

   Usually if one gets into big firm, then the range of experience is very limited. One learns too much of only one or two things.

   But if one joins middle level firm (two-three partner firm which is 10 to 15 years old) then one gets lot of exposure with variety of work. And this is very useful in actual practice and also in practical world of business.

7. Prashanth | August 30, 2009 at 8:01 pm | Reply

   Sir i completed my cpt in december 2008 after completion of my b.com but i could not pass my ipcc in november 2009 then any possibilityes to do my articles in big 4 audit firms

   Reply by Anup: The rules of the ICAI are constantly in flux! At one time, these firms would say PE2 both groups at one attempt – and some would even insist on graduation. However, as ICAI has now brought the IPCC framework – I would suggest you to contact any office of such firm where you want to do articleship. This is because the firms might have different policies of recruiting for articleship training. If you get good marks in IPCC – then it should not matter (for example would anyone say no to merit holder?).

   However, you should consider all the issues before joining any firm. eg. usually in big firms it becomes quite problematic for leaves etc.

8. Sonia | September 4, 2009 at 2:40 pm | Reply

   sir, i have just passed my PCC exam in first attempt. i want to join some good ca firm which has exposure (recently i m doing articleship from a firm, but it does not has much exposure). Top firms have strict rules,so i m looking for a mid-level firm..can u hplease help me

   Reply by Anup: Variety of work exposure is very important in CA training. I would suggest you go and discuss the issue with few other CA’s in practice in your place.

   However, please remember that ICAI has made rules of transfer really difficult – though not impossible.

   You can also do some research on CAs and CA Firms – this information is available publicly from ICAI website:

   1) Member’s Directory

   2) Firm Directory

9. sonia | September 5, 2009 at 1:03 pm | Reply

   Thank you very much sir for your advice.

10. Tahura Rizwan | September 6, 2009 at 11:16 pm | Reply

    Hello Sir,
    I’ve passed the CPT exam in June 2009 after my class XII. Currently i’m preparing for IPCC May 2010.Seeing the results of PCC students, recently declared, its really difficult to get ranking for oneself and if so happens one might miss the opportunity to do articleship in the Big Fours.So if a student clears both groups in first attempt or has missed the merit list by few marks, will the student be lucky enough to be considered by those top CA firms & the Big Fours?

    • Anup | September 7, 2009 at 7:16 pm | Reply

      Big Four is not the end of the world! I have seen CA’s who did articleship at Big4, and after qualifying were too happy to open their proprietorship firm – for the freedom and variety that it offered!

      Just the Big4 in India employs around 8000 CAs! The Big firms – whether the big4 or others have both their advantages and disadvantages. In the end what matters is how much you know. Even the Big4 recruits CAs who have not done articleship with them!

      Also for articleship all these follow different practices for recruitment. It would be most appropriate that you shortlist some firms in your place and meet the partner/HR manager there.

      What is most important from articleship point of view is ‘mentoring’ and ‘exposure to variety’. Keep both Medium firms and Big firms in your shortlist – lets say shortlist 6 to 8 firms.

      Then go to your shortlisted firms – see their offices and infrastructure – if you can meet the Partner or HR Manager talk to them (Big4 might not even let you enter their office!). If you are hell bent – take telephone numbers talk on telephone. Keep tab on the notice board of the ICAI regional offices – thats the only place where big4 might advertise articleship vacancies.

      In the end it really depends – an article in Big4 might be slogging out in audit work in some remote factory of their big client!

      Another one in medium size firm might be meeting and discussing mergers and acquisition with clients in big metro – and that’s apart from frequently attending ICAI seminars – if his Principal permits it!

    • Tahura Rizwan | September 7, 2009 at 10:38 pm | Reply

      Thank you Sir for your valuable guidance and advice.